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Budd Inlet Race Course Length

Tom Kreyche
 

Thanks to the Budd Inlet organizers – great race today - and thanks to the weather gods for making it a bit more of an open water race!

 

I just wanted to point out (after checking my GPS trace) that the Gull Harbor turn was placed about .38 mile North of the stated position. This made the course about 8.75 miles long instead of 8.0 miles. This threw off my navigation a bit but we quickly sorted things out.

 

Turn stated position: 47° 6’ 43.58” N, 122° 53’ 50.49” W

My measured position:  47° 7'3.2"N, 122°53'46.4"W

 

If anyone has different measurements let me know – I’d be happy to share my GPS trace as a Google Earth KML file – see attached for an image of the turn and my trace.

 

…Tom Kreyche

 


Bainbridge Marathon 2015 Results

Steve Bennett
 

Here they are folks, it may be a while before they get to the website. The Start and Finish were at Fort Ward this year.  The Half-Marathon ran from Fay Bainbridge to Fort Ward.   The changes seemed to cause little trouble.  Fort Ward was cool and pleasant.


Results of the 34th Annual Bainbridge Marathon

12 September 2015

 

 

1. Theresa & Jeff Knakal;                               4xOW             *3:30:31

    Rainer & Adrian Storb       

2. Kevin Olney                                                HPK                3:55:15            cw

3. Jeff Maloney                                               HPK                3:59:36            cw

4. John Heater                                                 OWIII             4:10:20

5. Mark Miller                                                 FWI                 4:21:48

6. Tom Kreyche                                              OWIII             4:29:11

7. Rod Sternagel                                             OWIII             4:51:51            cw

8. Marc Fuhrmeister                                        HPK                4:59:11

9. Bart Maupin                                                FSK                 5:00:20

10. John Straub                                               SUP                 *7:44:13          cw

11. Debbie Straub                                           OC-1               *7:44:16          cw

 

1. Jim Schultz                                                  HPK                *1:41:50

2. Ben Hudson                                                OWII              1:50:59

3. Shane Baker                                                V1 Outrigger   *1:58:53

4. Dean Williams                                             OC-1               1:58:56

5. Michael Lampi                                            Pedalboat        *2:03:57         

6. Amelia Bethke                                            FSK                 *2:07:48

7. Amber Zipperer                                           FSK                 2:13:05

 

* Course records in class

 

 


Regatta equipment needed for Budd Inlet regatta this weekend

peterplimpton
 

Hello folks-

Budd Inlet race is this Saturday 9/19. Weather should be OK. Tide is high at 10:43am.

I need some help in tracking down the equipment that floats from regatta to regatta.

Steve Bennett has the iPad and the bow markers (numbers). So I'll be working with Steve to get those items.

Shane Baker has more ribbons for the race. Shane and I will be communicating.

Other items I'm looking for include:

-- The duffle bag with the race buoys.
-- the life vests
-- the box with miscellaneous items like pens and tape etc.

Does anyone know where these things are?

Ideally I'd like to take possession of the iPad by Thursday, and the buoys by Friday. I work in Tacoma and can meet folks there or farther north if that is necessary.

Thanks!

Peter Plimpton
Budd Inlet Race Director



Re: Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

Tom Kreyche
 


Steve - yes, you are correct it's about 15 mi CCW to Agate from Ft. Ward...Tom


From: "Steve Bennett"
To: "tkreyche" , "SoundRowers"
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:03:31 AM
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015


Tom,
Nice work.  I defer to your analysis. You have caught my error:  I either foolishly or mistakenly equated the flood at Agate and Rich. Slack at Rich is over an hour later at noon.  The tide is at ebb in Rich until then. 
I think the Counter-Clockwise distance to Agate Bridge from Fort Ward is 15 miles, however.
 
Steve


Re: Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

Steve Bennett
 

Tom,
Nice work.  I defer to your analysis. You have caught my error:  I either foolishly or mistakenly equated the flood at Agate and Rich. Slack at Rich is over an hour later at noon.  The tide is at ebb in Rich until then. 
I think the Counter-Clockwise distance to Agate Bridge from Fort Ward is 15 miles, however.
 
Steve


From: "'Tom Kreyche' tkreyche@... [SoundRowers]"
To: 'Steve Bennett' ; SoundRowers@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: [SoundRowers] Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

 
Steve,
 
Here’s my revised analysis based on a start at Ft. Ward at about 9:45 and a 4 hour racer. This disagrees with yours a fair bit, except we’re both suggesting CW would be best if the predicted N wind sticks.
 
Any other opinions?
 
…Tom
 
Overview
This estimate is for Saturday September 12, with racers starting from Fort Ward. Without considering wind, CCW may be more favorable since racers will spend less time fighting the current in Rich Passage. CCW may also have a slight advantage with the current through Agate Passage. However winds are forecast to be out of the N, which would tip the balance towards CW direction. The 9-mile E side of the island is exposed and a downwind leg is preferred.
 
Counter-Clockwise
A 3kt ebb will push racers to a quick exit from Rich Passage. On the S and SE end of the island a weak ebb will be beneficial. By the time racers reach Agate Passage (11 miles from the start) at about 11:15 a.m., they will be aided by a weak but building flood of 1.5 to 2kt. The current will aid racers on the NW side of the island, and transition to hindering them on the SW side as the flood into Rich Passage takes effect. A 2kt flood tide will hinder the entrance into Rich Passage with it weakening to 1kt near Ft. Ward.
 
Clockwise
Racers will immediately face a 3kt ebb through Rich Passage, and will also be hindered around the SW side of the island. The W and NW should be mostly slack. The entrance into Agate Passage is about 15 miles from the start - it is slack at 10:47 and builds rapidly to flood. Early arrivals will see slack or a light flood, but later arrivals will face 1.5 by 11:30 a.m. A weak flood will aid racers on the E side of the island and back into Rich Passage. One strategy would be to work hard the first part of the race to get out of Rich Passage and through Agate early, then cruise downwind on the E side of the island.
 
Tidal Currents
Agate Passage N End - Flood Direction, 230 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 032 True
Max Current -2 kt (ebb) at 7:44 a.m.
Slack Water 10:45 a.m.
Max Current +1.7 kt 2:03 p.m.

Agate Passage S End - Flood Direction, 216 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 037 True
Max Current -3.9 kt (ebb) at 7:56 a.m.
Slack Water 10:48 p.m.
Max Current 4.2 kt (flood) 2:10 p.m.

Rich Passage W End - Flood Direction, 238 True. Ebb (-) Direction, 055 True
Max Current -3.4 kt (ebb) at 9:05 a.m.
Slack Water 11:29 a.m.
Max Current +3.2 kt (flood) at 2:55 p.m.

Rich Passage Off Pleasant Beach
Max Current  -3.1 kt (ebb) at 9:26 a.m.
Slack Water 11:59 a.m.
Max Current 1.7 kt (flood) at 2:48 p.m.
 
 
 
From: Steve Bennett [mailto:bennett_seattle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 4:43 PM
To: tkreyche@...; SoundRowers@...
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015
 
So then, with the start now at Fort Ward, our hat is cocked; the tables turned.  Here's my new read:
 
Leaving Fort Ward, clockwise, within an hour of slack, a 5 hour racer should arrive at the Agate Pass Bridge with a favorable current of 2 kt, and slower paddlers will benefit even more.  Had he opted for counter-clockwise he would be fighting 3.5 kt at the bridge.  There'll likely  be no contrarians this year.
 
Also for your planning:
 
·         It is 15 miles from Fort Ward to the Agate Pass Bridge counterclockwise.
·         It is 11 miles from Fort Ward to the Agate Pass Bridge clockwise
·         Halfway is at about the middle of the big bay that extends from Agate Point to Point Monroe (which is just around the corner to the north from Fay Bainbridge)


    Any other thoughts ?
 
Steve




Re: Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

Tom Kreyche
 

Steve,

 

Here’s my revised analysis based on a start at Ft. Ward at about 9:45 and a 4 hour racer. This disagrees with yours a fair bit, except we’re both suggesting CW would be best if the predicted N wind sticks.

 

Any other opinions?

 

…Tom

 

Overview

This estimate is for Saturday September 12, with racers starting from Fort Ward. Without considering wind, CCW may be more favorable since racers will spend less time fighting the current in Rich Passage. CCW may also have a slight advantage with the current through Agate Passage. However winds are forecast to be out of the N, which would tip the balance towards CW direction. The 9-mile E side of the island is exposed and a downwind leg is preferred.

 

Counter-Clockwise

A 3kt ebb will push racers to a quick exit from Rich Passage. On the S and SE end of the island a weak ebb will be beneficial. By the time racers reach Agate Passage (11 miles from the start) at about 11:15 a.m., they will be aided by a weak but building flood of 1.5 to 2kt. The current will aid racers on the NW side of the island, and transition to hindering them on the SW side as the flood into Rich Passage takes effect. A 2kt flood tide will hinder the entrance into Rich Passage with it weakening to 1kt near Ft. Ward.

 

Clockwise

Racers will immediately face a 3kt ebb through Rich Passage, and will also be hindered around the SW side of the island. The W and NW should be mostly slack. The entrance into Agate Passage is about 15 miles from the start - it is slack at 10:47 and builds rapidly to flood. Early arrivals will see slack or a light flood, but later arrivals will face 1.5 by 11:30 a.m. A weak flood will aid racers on the E side of the island and back into Rich Passage. One strategy would be to work hard the first part of the race to get out of Rich Passage and through Agate early, then cruise downwind on the E side of the island.

 

Tidal Currents
Agate Passage N End - Flood Direction, 230 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 032 True

Max Current -2 kt (ebb) at 7:44 a.m.

Slack Water 10:45 a.m.

Max Current +1.7 kt 2:03 p.m.


Agate Passage S End - Flood Direction, 216 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 037 True

Max Current -3.9 kt (ebb) at 7:56 a.m.

Slack Water 10:48 p.m.

Max Current 4.2 kt (flood) 2:10 p.m.


Rich Passage W End - Flood Direction, 238 True. Ebb (-) Direction, 055 True

Max Current -3.4 kt (ebb) at 9:05 a.m.

Slack Water 11:29 a.m.

Max Current +3.2 kt (flood) at 2:55 p.m.


Rich Passage Off Pleasant Beach

Max Current  -3.1 kt (ebb) at 9:26 a.m.

Slack Water 11:59 a.m.

Max Current 1.7 kt (flood) at 2:48 p.m.

 

Sources
http://www.deepzoom.com/index.html
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/currents15/tab2pc2.html#17

 

 

From: Steve Bennett [mailto:bennett_seattle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 4:43 PM
To: tkreyche@...; SoundRowers@...
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

 

So then, with the start now at Fort Ward, our hat is cocked; the tables turned.  Here's my new read:

 

Leaving Fort Ward, clockwise, within an hour of slack, a 5 hour racer should arrive at the Agate Pass Bridge with a favorable current of 2 kt, and slower paddlers will benefit even more.  Had he opted for counter-clockwise he would be fighting 3.5 kt at the bridge.  There'll likely  be no contrarians this year.

 

Also for your planning:

 

·         It is 15 miles from Fort Ward to the Agate Pass Bridge counterclockwise.

·         It is 11 miles from Fort Ward to the Agate Pass Bridge clockwise

·         Halfway is at about the middle of the big bay that extends from Agate Point to Point Monroe (which is just around the corner to the north from Fay Bainbridge)



    Any other thoughts ?

 

Steve


Re: Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

Steve Bennett
 

So then, with the start now at Fort Ward, our hat is cocked; the tables turned.  Here's my new read:

Leaving Fort Ward, clockwise, within an hour of slack, a 5 hour racer should arrive at the Agate Pass Bridge with a favorable current of 2 kt, and slower paddlers will benefit even more.  Had he opted for counter-clockwise he would be fighting 3.5 kt at the bridge.  There'll likely  be no contrarians this year.

Also for your planning:

·         It is 15 miles from Fort Ward to the Agate Pass Bridge counterclockwise.
·         It is 11 miles from Fort Ward to the Agate Pass Bridge clockwise
·         Halfway is at about the middle of the big bay that extends from Agate Point to Point Monroe (which is just around the corner to the north from Fay Bainbridge)

    Any other thoughts ?

Steve



From: Steve Bennett
To: "tkreyche@..." ; "SoundRowers@..."
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

Thanks Tom, for a more thorough analysis than you would have gotten from me.   I totally concur with your call.  Here is my read:
If a 5 hour Marathoner took the counter-clockwise route, she would face almost no current at the Agate Pass Bridge with the Slack occurring at 10:47. At Point White, about half-way, she would have a supporting current of 1.5 kt, building through the pass.

If however, she opted for the clockwise route, she  would be fighting that same 1.5 kt current when she hit Point White, and facing an uphill 4 kt current at the Agate Pass Bridge.  Not a big choice this year.
Look forward to seeing you all on Saturday.  We'll have the usual soup and bread at the finish, also a nice selection of commemorative hats, thanks to Stoneway Concrete.

Tide charts attached, I think.

Steve


From: "tkreyche@... [SoundRowers]"
To: SoundRowers@...
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 6:10 PM
Subject: [SoundRowers] Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

 
Here's my take on the tidal currents for next Saturday's race. I'm interested to hear other opinions.

...Tom Kreyche

Sources
http://www.deepzoom.com/index.html
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/currents15/tab2pc2.html#17

Overview
Without taking wind into consideration, a CCW direction will almost certainly be more favorable. If there is a South wind, CCW will certainly be preferred since the East side of the island is more exposed to the wind and it will be a downwind leg. Racers may wish to consider a CW direction if there is a strong North wind. This would take advantage of a downwind leg on the East side of the island, but racers would face opposing the tidal currents.

Counter-Clockwise
With a 9:30 a.m. start time, racers will enter the Passage at around 9:50 a.m. They will face a 1 kt ebb tide at the North end, at the same time there is 2 kt ebb at the South end. The current will be decreasing rapidly so the trip through the Passage should get easier rather than more difficult. During the leg along the West side of the Island, there will be a transition from a weak ebb at the N end to a weak flood towards the S end. Earlier arrivals at Rich Passage will take better advantage of the weak .5 to 1 kt ebb, since it weakens fairly rapidly and goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon.

Clockwise
This is less favorable than counter-clockwise. Racers headed South on the East side of Bainbridge will be facing a weak ebb tide. Rich Passage goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon – earlier arrivals will also face a weak ebb through the Passage. A greater problem occurs approaching Agate Passage, where the flood will be increasing rapidly and peaking at 4.2 kt at 2:10 p.m. Racers will typically be facing a 3 kt or greater flood. The earlier arrival the better.

Tidal Currents
Agate Passage N End - Flood Direction, 230 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 032 True
Max Current -2 kt (ebb) at 7:44 a.m.
Slack Water 10:45 a.m.
Max Current +1.7 kt 2:03 p.m.

Agate Passage S End - Flood Direction, 216 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 037 True
Max Current -3.9 kt (ebb) at 7:56 a.m.
Slack Water 10:48 p.m.
Max Current 4.2 kt (flood) 2:10 p.m.

Rich Passage W End - Flood Direction, 238 True. Ebb (-) Direction, 055 True
Max Current -3.4 kt (ebb) at 9:05 a.m.
Slack Water 11:29 a.m.
Max Current +3.2 kt (flood) at 2:55 p.m.

Rich Passage Off Pleasant Beach
Max Current  -3.1 kt (ebb) at 9:26 a.m.
Slack Water 11:59 a.m.
Max Current 1.7 kt (flood) at 2:48 p.m.







CORRECTION Re: Bainbrige Marathon Starts this year at Fort Ward

Steve Bennett
 

WRONG!  The half-marathon will, as usual,  start at Fay Bainbridge Park two hours after the start of the full marathon, and proceed counter-clockwise to a finish at Fort Ward.   WRONG!

The half marathon will, in fact, start at Fay Bainbridge Park this year, two hours after the start of the full marathon, and proceed clockwise to a finish at Fort Ward.  (the course is the same as for 35 years, but the direction will be reversed.



From: "Steve Bennett bennett_seattle@... [SoundRowers]"
To: yahoogroups ; whatcom ; Cole Traci ; Tyler Peterson ; Shane Baker ; Jeff Knakal
Cc: "lorim@..." ; "mike@..." <mike@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 12:31 PM
Subject: [SoundRowers] Bainbrige Marathon Starts this year at Fort Ward

 
Hey you Bainbridge Marathoners,
 
Due to changes in Park policy and a potential parking conflict with a group of classic auto buffs, we have decided  to make  a last-minute change that will benefit us all, at least for the day.  The full marathon will start and end at Fort Ward Park (directions follow, direct from Google maps). The half-marathon will, as usual,  start at Fay Bainbridge Park two hours after the start of the full marathon, and proceed counter-clockwise to a finish at Fort Ward.  Shuttle arrangements will, as usual, take place after the start of the full marathon.  We will be making every effort to minimize traffic at Fay Bainbridge and the parking may be limited at Fort Ward, so we encourage carpooling.  We will make every effort to start the race by 10, but will be as accommodating as possible, should there be any confusion. 
 
·         No Discover Pass is required at either park.
·         Slow paddlers may be allowed an early start.
·         Bring hydration gear; it’s going to be a hot day.
·         Got hats this year, thank Stoneway Concrete
·         This will throw Tom’s analysis of the currents and mine into  a cocked hat
·         Start time has always been dependent upon arrival of the last possible ferry and the speed of registration: I try to get it going ASAP, but that usually is closer to 10:00 than 9:30
 
Looking  forward to the start, 
Steve
 
Directions to Fort Ward Park From Seattle via the Bainbridge Is. Ferry
 
Take the Seattle - Bainbridge Island ferry to Bainbridge Island  49 min (8.6 mi)
Take Wyatt Way NE to W Blakely Ave NE  11 min (3.7 mi)
Continue straight onto Ferry Dock   0.2 mi
Continue onto Olympic Dr SE  423 ft
Turn left onto Winslow Way E  0.1 mi
Turn right onto Ericksen Ave NE  0.3 mi
Turn left onto Wyatt Way NE  1.1 mi
Wyatt Way NE turns slightly left and becomes Eagle Harbor Dr NE  0.2 mi
Slight right onto Bucklin Hill Rd NE  0.3 mi
Continue straight onto Blakely Ave NE  1.4 mi
Continue on W Blakely Ave NE. Drive to Pleasant Beach Dr NE  3 min (0.8 mi)
Slight right onto W Blakely Ave NE  0.4 mi
Slight left onto Pleasant Beach Dr NE  0.4 mi
Fort Ward Park  2241 Pleasant Beach Drive Northeast, Bainbridge Island, WA 98110
 
Directions to Fort Ward Park from Edmonds via the Kingston Ferry
 
Take the WA-104 W ferry to Kingston  54 min (5.6 mi)
Take NE West Kingston Rd, Miller Bay Rd NE and WA-305 S to Sportsman Club Rd NE in Bainbridge Island
25 min (14.1 mi)
Continue straight onto WA-104 W 0.3 mi
Turn left onto Iowa Ave NE  180 ft
Iowa Ave NE turns slightly right and becomes NE West Kingston Rd  2.2 mi
Turn left onto Miller Bay Rd NE  4.3 mi
Continue onto Augusta Ave NE  0.8 mi
Augusta Ave NE turns slightly right and becomes Suquamish Way NE  1.6 mi
Turn left onto WA-305 S  4.9 mi
Continue on Sportsman Club Rd NE to Wyatt Way NW  4 min (1.9 mi)
Turn right onto Sportsman Club Rd NE   1.6 mi
Turn left onto Finch Rd NE  0.2 mi
Continue to W Blakely Ave NE   4 min (2.1 mi)
Turn right onto Wyatt Way NW  0.1 mi
Wyatt Way NW turns slightly left and becomes Eagle Harbor Dr NE  0.2 mi
Slight right onto Bucklin Hill Rd NE  0.3 mi
Continue straight onto Blakely Ave N.  1.4 mi
Continue on W Blakely Ave NE. Drive to Pleasant Beach Dr NE  3 min (0.8 mi)
Slight right onto W Blakely Ave NE  0.4 mi
Slight left onto Pleasant Beach Dr NE  0.4 mi
Fort Ward Park  2241 Pleasant Beach Drive Northeast, Bainbridge Island, WA 98110
 
Directions to Fort Ward Park from Tacoma
 
Get on WA-16 W  6 min (2.3 mi)
Head west on S 11th St toward Tacoma Ave S  0.9 mi
Turn left onto S Sprague Ave  1.0 mi
Take the Washington 16 W ramp to Gig Harbor/Bremerton  0.4 mi
Follow WA-16 W and WA-3 N to WA-305 S in Poulsbo. Take the Washington 305 exit from WA-3 N  44 min (44.5 mi)
Merge onto WA-16 W  26.5 mi
Continue onto WA-3 N  17.7 mi
Take the Washington 305 exit toward Poulsbo/Bainbridge Island  0.3 mi
Continue on WA-305 S. Take Blakely Ave NE to Pleasant Beach Dr NE in Bainbridge Island  29 min (15.9 mi)
Use the right 2 lanes to turn right onto WA-305 S  11.1 mi
Turn right onto Sportsman Club Rd NE  1.6 mi
Turn left onto Finch Rd NE   0.2 mi
Turn right onto Wyatt Way NW  0.1 mi
Wyatt Way NW turns slightly left and becomes Eagle Harbor Dr NE  0.2 mi
Slight right onto Bucklin Hill Rd NE  0.3 mi
Continue straight onto Blakely Ave NE  1.4 mi
Slight right onto W Blakely Ave NE  0.4 mi
Slight left onto Pleasant Beach Dr NE  0.4 mi
Fort Ward Park 2241 Pleasant Beach Drive Northeast, Bainbridge Island, WA 98110
 





Bainbrige Marathon Starts this year at Fort Ward

Steve Bennett
 

Heyyou Bainbridge Marathoners, Dueto changes in Park policy and a potential parking conflict with a group ofclassic auto buffs, we have decided  tomake  a last-minute change that willbenefit us all, at least for the day. The full marathon will start and end at Fort Ward Park (directionsfollow, direct from Google maps). The half-marathon will, as usual,  start at FayBainbridge Park two hours after the start of the full marathon, and proceedcounter-clockwise to a finish at Fort Ward. Shuttle arrangements will, as usual, take place after the start of thefull marathon.  We will be making everyeffort to minimize traffic at Fay Bainbridge and the parking may be limited atFort Ward, so we encourage carpooling. We will make every effort to start the race by 10, but will be as accommodatingas possible, should there be any confusion.  ·        No Discover Pass is required at either park.·        Slow paddlers may be allowed an early start.·        Bring hydration gear; it’s going to be a hot day.·        Got hats this year, thank Stoneway Concrete·        This will throw Tom’s analysis of the currents and mineinto  a cocked hat·        Start time has always been dependent upon arrival of thelast possible ferry and the speed of registration: I try to get it going ASAP,but that usually is closer to 10:00 than 9:30 Looking forward to the start,  Steve Directions to Fort Ward Park FromSeattle via the Bainbridge Is. Ferry  Take the Seattle - Bainbridge Islandferry to Bainbridge Island  49 min (8.6mi)Take Wyatt Way NE to W Blakely AveNE  11 min (3.7 mi)Continue straight onto Ferry Dock   0.2 miContinue onto Olympic Dr SE 423 ftTurn left onto Winslow Way E 0.1 miTurn right onto Ericksen Ave NE  0.3 miTurn left onto Wyatt Way NE 1.1 miWyatt Way NE turns slightly left and becomes Eagle Harbor DrNE  0.2 miSlight right onto Bucklin Hill Rd NE  0.3 miContinue straight onto Blakely Ave NE  1.4 miContinue on W Blakely Ave NE. Drive toPleasant Beach Dr NE  3 min (0.8 mi)Slight right onto W Blakely Ave NE  0.4 miSlight left onto Pleasant Beach Dr NE  0.4 miFort Ward Park  2241 Pleasant Beach Drive Northeast,Bainbridge Island, WA 98110 Directions toFort Ward Park from Edmonds via the Kingston Ferry Takethe WA-104 W ferry to Kingston  54 min(5.6 mi)TakeNE West Kingston Rd, Miller Bay Rd NE and WA-305 S to Sportsman Club Rd NE inBainbridge Island25min (14.1 mi)Continue straight onto WA-104 W 0.3 miTurn left onto Iowa Ave NE  180 ftIowa Ave NE turns slightly right andbecomes NE West Kingston Rd  2.2 miTurn left onto Miller Bay Rd NE  4.3 miContinue onto Augusta Ave NE  0.8 miAugusta Ave NE turns slightly right andbecomes Suquamish Way NE  1.6 miTurn left onto WA-305 S  4.9 miContinueon Sportsman Club Rd NE to Wyatt Way NW  4min (1.9 mi)Turn right onto Sportsman Club Rd NE   1.6 miTurn left onto Finch Rd NE  0.2 miContinueto W Blakely Ave NE   4 min (2.1 mi)Turn right onto Wyatt Way NW  0.1 miWyatt Way NW turns slightly left andbecomes Eagle Harbor Dr NE  0.2 miSlight right onto Bucklin Hill Rd NE  0.3 miContinue straight onto Blakely AveN.  1.4 miContinueon W Blakely Ave NE. Drive to Pleasant Beach Dr NE  3 min (0.8 mi)Slight right onto W Blakely Ave NE  0.4 miSlight left onto Pleasant Beach Dr NE  0.4 miFortWard Park  2241 Pleasant Beach DriveNortheast, Bainbridge Island, WA 98110 Directions to Fort Ward Park from Tacoma  Get on WA-16 W  6 min (2.3 mi)Headwest on S 11th St toward Tacoma Ave S  0.9miTurnleft onto S Sprague Ave  1.0 miTakethe Washington 16 W ramp to Gig Harbor/Bremerton  0.4 miFollow WA-16 W and WA-3 Nto WA-305 S in Poulsbo. Take the Washington 305 exit from WA-3 N  44 min (44.5 mi)Mergeonto WA-16 W  26.5 miContinueonto WA-3 N  17.7 miTakethe Washington 305 exit toward Poulsbo/Bainbridge Island  0.3 miContinue on WA-305 S. TakeBlakely Ave NE to Pleasant Beach Dr NE in Bainbridge Island  29 min (15.9 mi)Usethe right 2 lanes to turn right onto WA-305 S  11.1 miTurnright onto Sportsman Club Rd NE  1.6 miTurnleft onto Finch Rd NE   0.2 miTurnright onto Wyatt Way NW  0.1 miWyattWay NW turns slightly left and becomes Eagle Harbor Dr NE  0.2 miSlightright onto Bucklin Hill Rd NE  0.3 miContinuestraight onto Blakely Ave NE  1.4 miSlightright onto W Blakely Ave NE  0.4 miSlightleft onto Pleasant Beach Dr NE  0.4 miFort Ward Park 2241Pleasant Beach Drive Northeast, Bainbridge Island, WA 98110


Re: Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015 [1 Attachment]

Jeff Knakal
 

What time does the race start? The website says 9:30 for the long course, but typically we start later.



On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 11:33 AM, "Steve Bennett bennett_seattle@... [SoundRowers]" wrote:


 
[Attachment(s) from Steve Bennett included below]
Thanks Tom, for a more thorough analysis than you would have gotten from me.   I totally concur with your call.  Here is my read:
If a 5 hour Marathoner took the counter-clockwise route, she would face almost no current at the Agate Pass Bridge with the Slack occurring at 10:47. At Point White, about half-way, she would have a supporting current of 1.5 kt, building through the pass.

If however, she opted for the clockwise route, she  would be fighting that same 1.5 kt current when she hit Point White, and facing an uphill 4 kt current at the Agate Pass Bridge.  Not a big choice this year.
Look forward to seeing you all on Saturday.  We'll have the usual soup and bread at the finish, also a nice selection of commemorative hats, thanks to Stoneway Concrete.

Tide charts attached, I think.

Steve


From: "tkreyche@... [SoundRowers]"
To: SoundRowers@...
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 6:10 PM
Subject: [SoundRowers] Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

 
Here's my take on the tidal currents for next Saturday's race. I'm interested to hear other opinions.

...Tom Kreyche

Sources
http://www.deepzoom.com/index.html
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/currents15/tab2pc2.html#17

Overview
Without taking wind into consideration, a CCW direction will almost certainly be more favorable. If there is a South wind, CCW will certainly be preferred since the East side of the island is more exposed to the wind and it will be a downwind leg. Racers may wish to consider a CW direction if there is a strong North wind. This would take advantage of a downwind leg on the East side of the island, but racers would face opposing the tidal currents.

Counter-Clockwise
With a 9:30 a.m. start time, racers will enter the Passage at around 9:50 a.m. They will face a 1 kt ebb tide at the North end, at the same time there is 2 kt ebb at the South end. The current will be decreasing rapidly so the trip through the Passage should get easier rather than more difficult. During the leg along the West side of the Island, there will be a transition from a weak ebb at the N end to a weak flood towards the S end. Earlier arrivals at Rich Passage will take better advantage of the weak .5 to 1 kt ebb, since it weakens fairly rapidly and goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon.

Clockwise
This is less favorable than counter-clockwise. Racers headed South on the East side of Bainbridge will be facing a weak ebb tide. Rich Passage goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon – earlier arrivals will also face a weak ebb through the Passage. A greater problem occurs approaching Agate Passage, where the flood will be increasing rapidly and peaking at 4.2 kt at 2:10 p.m. Racers will typically be facing a 3 kt or greater flood. The earlier arrival the better.

Tidal Currents
Agate Passage N End - Flood Direction, 230 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 032 True
Max Current -2 kt (ebb) at 7:44 a.m.
Slack Water 10:45 a.m.
Max Current +1.7 kt 2:03 p.m.

Agate Passage S End - Flood Direction, 216 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 037 True
Max Current -3.9 kt (ebb) at 7:56 a.m.
Slack Water 10:48 p.m.
Max Current 4.2 kt (flood) 2:10 p.m.

Rich Passage W End - Flood Direction, 238 True. Ebb (-) Direction, 055 True
Max Current -3.4 kt (ebb) at 9:05 a.m.
Slack Water 11:29 a.m.
Max Current +3.2 kt (flood) at 2:55 p.m.

Rich Passage Off Pleasant Beach
Max Current  -3.1 kt (ebb) at 9:26 a.m.
Slack Water 11:59 a.m.
Max Current 1.7 kt (flood) at 2:48 p.m.







Re: Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

Steve Bennett
 

Thanks Tom, for a more thorough analysis than you would have gotten from me.   I totally concur with your call.  Here is my read:
If a 5 hour Marathoner took the counter-clockwise route, she would face almost no current at the Agate Pass Bridge with the Slack occurring at 10:47. At Point White, about half-way, she would have a supporting current of 1.5 kt, building through the pass.

If however, she opted for the clockwise route, she  would be fighting that same 1.5 kt current when she hit Point White, and facing an uphill 4 kt current at the Agate Pass Bridge.  Not a big choice this year.
Look forward to seeing you all on Saturday.  We'll have the usual soup and bread at the finish, also a nice selection of commemorative hats, thanks to Stoneway Concrete.

Tide charts attached, I think.

Steve


From: "tkreyche@... [SoundRowers]" To: SoundRowers@...
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 6:10 PM
Subject: [SoundRowers] Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

 
Here's my take on the tidal currents for next Saturday's race. I'm interested to hear other opinions.

...Tom Kreyche

Sources
http://www.deepzoom.com/index.html
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/currents15/tab2pc2.html#17

Overview
Without taking wind into consideration, a CCW direction will almost certainly be more favorable. If there is a South wind, CCW will certainly be preferred since the East side of the island is more exposed to the wind and it will be a downwind leg. Racers may wish to consider a CW direction if there is a strong North wind. This would take advantage of a downwind leg on the East side of the island, but racers would face opposing the tidal currents.

Counter-Clockwise
With a 9:30 a.m. start time, racers will enter the Passage at around 9:50 a.m. They will face a 1 kt ebb tide at the North end, at the same time there is 2 kt ebb at the South end. The current will be decreasing rapidly so the trip through the Passage should get easier rather than more difficult. During the leg along the West side of the Island, there will be a transition from a weak ebb at the N end to a weak flood towards the S end. Earlier arrivals at Rich Passage will take better advantage of the weak .5 to 1 kt ebb, since it weakens fairly rapidly and goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon.

Clockwise
This is less favorable than counter-clockwise. Racers headed South on the East side of Bainbridge will be facing a weak ebb tide. Rich Passage goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon – earlier arrivals will also face a weak ebb through the Passage. A greater problem occurs approaching Agate Passage, where the flood will be increasing rapidly and peaking at 4.2 kt at 2:10 p.m. Racers will typically be facing a 3 kt or greater flood. The earlier arrival the better.

Tidal Currents
Agate Passage N End - Flood Direction, 230 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 032 True
Max Current -2 kt (ebb) at 7:44 a.m.
Slack Water 10:45 a.m.
Max Current +1.7 kt 2:03 p.m.

Agate Passage S End - Flood Direction, 216 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 037 True
Max Current -3.9 kt (ebb) at 7:56 a.m.
Slack Water 10:48 p.m.
Max Current 4.2 kt (flood) 2:10 p.m.

Rich Passage W End - Flood Direction, 238 True. Ebb (-) Direction, 055 True
Max Current -3.4 kt (ebb) at 9:05 a.m.
Slack Water 11:29 a.m.
Max Current +3.2 kt (flood) at 2:55 p.m.

Rich Passage Off Pleasant Beach
Max Current  -3.1 kt (ebb) at 9:26 a.m.
Slack Water 11:59 a.m.
Max Current 1.7 kt (flood) at 2:48 p.m.





Re: Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

Debbie Natelson
 

Thanks Tom!  Great analysis.  So nice of you to share.  I have a sched conflict and may not be able to make this years Bainbridge race :( -- but have a great one all who do get to do one of my favorite races.  Always a challenge, no matter which way you go. 

Debbie

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 6:10 PM, tkreyche@... [SoundRowers] <SoundRowers-noreply@...> wrote:
 

Here's my take on the tidal currents for next Saturday's race. I'm interested to hear other opinions.


...Tom Kreyche


Sources
http://www.deepzoom.com/index.html
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/currents15/tab2pc2.html#17


Overview

Without taking wind into consideration, a CCW direction will almost certainly be more favorable. If there is a South wind, CCW will certainly be preferred since the East side of the island is more exposed to the wind and it will be a downwind leg. Racers may wish to consider a CW direction if there is a strong North wind. This would take advantage of a downwind leg on the East side of the island, but racers would face opposing the tidal currents.


Counter-Clockwise

With a 9:30 a.m. start time, racers will enter the Passage at around 9:50 a.m. They will face a 1 kt ebb tide at the North end, at the same time there is 2 kt ebb at the South end. The current will be decreasing rapidly so the trip through the Passage should get easier rather than more difficult. During the leg along the West side of the Island, there will be a transition from a weak ebb at the N end to a weak flood towards the S end. Earlier arrivals at Rich Passage will take better advantage of the weak .5 to 1 kt ebb, since it weakens fairly rapidly and goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon.


Clockwise

This is less favorable than counter-clockwise. Racers headed South on the East side of Bainbridge will be facing a weak ebb tide. Rich Passage goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon – earlier arrivals will also face a weak ebb through the Passage. A greater problem occurs approaching Agate Passage, where the flood will be increasing rapidly and peaking at 4.2 kt at 2:10 p.m. Racers will typically be facing a 3 kt or greater flood. The earlier arrival the better.


Tidal Currents
Agate Passage N End - Flood Direction, 230 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 032 True

Max Current -2 kt (ebb) at 7:44 a.m.

Slack Water 10:45 a.m.

Max Current +1.7 kt 2:03 p.m.


Agate Passage S End - Flood Direction, 216 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 037 True

Max Current -3.9 kt (ebb) at 7:56 a.m.

Slack Water 10:48 p.m.

Max Current 4.2 kt (flood) 2:10 p.m.


Rich Passage W End - Flood Direction, 238 True. Ebb (-) Direction, 055 True

Max Current -3.4 kt (ebb) at 9:05 a.m.

Slack Water 11:29 a.m.

Max Current +3.2 kt (flood) at 2:55 p.m.


Rich Passage Off Pleasant Beach

Max Current  -3.1 kt (ebb) at 9:26 a.m.

Slack Water 11:59 a.m.

Max Current 1.7 kt (flood) at 2:48 p.m.





Bainbridge Currents for Sept 12, 2015

Tom Kreyche
 

Here's my take on the tidal currents for next Saturday's race. I'm interested to hear other opinions.


...Tom Kreyche


Sources
http://www.deepzoom.com/index.html
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/currents15/tab2pc2.html#17


Overview

Without taking wind into consideration, a CCW direction will almost certainly be more favorable. If there is a South wind, CCW will certainly be preferred since the East side of the island is more exposed to the wind and it will be a downwind leg. Racers may wish to consider a CW direction if there is a strong North wind. This would take advantage of a downwind leg on the East side of the island, but racers would face opposing the tidal currents.


Counter-Clockwise

With a 9:30 a.m. start time, racers will enter the Passage at around 9:50 a.m. They will face a 1 kt ebb tide at the North end, at the same time there is 2 kt ebb at the South end. The current will be decreasing rapidly so the trip through the Passage should get easier rather than more difficult. During the leg along the West side of the Island, there will be a transition from a weak ebb at the N end to a weak flood towards the S end. Earlier arrivals at Rich Passage will take better advantage of the weak .5 to 1 kt ebb, since it weakens fairly rapidly and goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon.


Clockwise

This is less favorable than counter-clockwise. Racers headed South on the East side of Bainbridge will be facing a weak ebb tide. Rich Passage goes slack at 11:29 a.m. to noon – earlier arrivals will also face a weak ebb through the Passage. A greater problem occurs approaching Agate Passage, where the flood will be increasing rapidly and peaking at 4.2 kt at 2:10 p.m. Racers will typically be facing a 3 kt or greater flood. The earlier arrival the better.


Tidal Currents
Agate Passage N End - Flood Direction, 230 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 032 True

Max Current -2 kt (ebb) at 7:44 a.m.

Slack Water 10:45 a.m.

Max Current +1.7 kt 2:03 p.m.


Agate Passage S End - Flood Direction, 216 True, Ebb (-) Direction, 037 True

Max Current -3.9 kt (ebb) at 7:56 a.m.

Slack Water 10:48 p.m.

Max Current 4.2 kt (flood) 2:10 p.m.


Rich Passage W End - Flood Direction, 238 True. Ebb (-) Direction, 055 True

Max Current -3.4 kt (ebb) at 9:05 a.m.

Slack Water 11:29 a.m.

Max Current +3.2 kt (flood) at 2:55 p.m.


Rich Passage Off Pleasant Beach

Max Current  -3.1 kt (ebb) at 9:26 a.m.

Slack Water 11:59 a.m.

Max Current 1.7 kt (flood) at 2:48 p.m.




Round Shaw Row

Michael Lampi
 

We had another great race yesterday going around Shaw Island. It was relatively cool, there was a light wind from the south and/or east, and the light flood tide wasn't too terrible regardless of which way one chose.

Regardless, I managed to finish within 6 minutes of the past 6 times I've finished this race since 2004: 2:23:53. How's that for consistency?!?

Unfortunately, my "new" Garmin GPS watch failed to log anything but time and miles after rounding the south end of Shaw. Sigh...

Michael Lampi



Ross Island Race this Sunday

Michael Lampi
 

Come one, come all to the Ross Island Race in Portland, OR. It should be a nice, relatively cool 74 degrees at the 8 AM Sunday start of the race.

Hope to see you there!

Michael Lampi



Pensacola International Coastal Regatta

Steve Wells
 

for details on "the 1st coastal rowing regatta in the U.S." check out RegattaCentral - Regatta Overview

 Note, they are including an open class for North American-style open water shells; however, they are employing a beach start and finish, which might be hard on our boats. It might be better to rent one of their coastal boats, if a 70+ lb. single sounds better to you.


Elk River Challenge

Vern and Janet Heikkila
 

Anyone planning to participate in the Elk River Challenge on Sunday, July 26 is invited to a potluck and tuna barbecue at Heikkila's house in Westport on Saturday evening. Show up anytime Sat, stay for dinner, then camp overnight in the yard if you like. (We'll provide the tuna, you bring the potluck.)   Vern & Janet



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Pensacola Coastal Race in November

Steve Wells
 


The premier USRowing sanctioned Coastal Rowing Event in the United States will be held on Pensacola Beach, Florida, located gulf side on 7 November 2015.  This event features "open class" races as well as a traditional FISA open water 4k to 6k event.   FISA racers, coaches and event staff from around the world are expected to participate.  Pensacola Coastal Rowing will be advertising this summer to register participants into the "open class" event following the FISA competition.   For more information:  contact info@....




Register for Lake Sammamish

watersprite
 

At the Commencement Bay race I only had to hand register three racers. Thank you all for pre-registering! Now lend a hand to Michael Lampi and his crew for the Lake Sammamish race and register right now:Sound Rowers: Lake Sammamish 2015 | Event registration | Webscorer


Note: apparently there is still some confusion out there - pre-registration just gets your information in our application, it does not commit you to racing. Although, what could be a better way to spend a Saturday morning?



Sound Rowers Banner whereabouts

Michael Lampi
 

Does anyone know where the Sound Rowers banner has gone? The last I saw it was at the Lake Whatcom Race.

I will be needing it for the Lake Sammamish Race this coming weekend.

Thank you!

Michael Lampi