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Re: Join an online race

Theresa Knakal
 

I totally forgot about this.  Sorry I missed it.

Theresa

On Friday, April 24, 2020, 11:28:14 AM PDT, Michael Lampi <michael.facebook@...> wrote:


Thank you, Peter, for arranging that race. It was fun!

I hope that we get more participation at our next race tomorrow!

Michael Lampi


Re: Join an online race

Michael Lampi
 

Thank you, Peter, for arranging that race. It was fun!

I hope that we get more participation at our next race tomorrow!

Michael Lampi


Join an online race

Peter & Vanessa
 

Sound Rowers members,

We are trying a first for us, an online video conferencing erg race (rowing, kayaking, cycle, run, ski machine, whatever you have access to).

Sign up on the Google Doc (step 5) here: 

Hope to see you at the event!

- Peter Turcan
Sound Rowers president


Re: Races for 2020 currently suspended

Kevin Olney
 

I am hoping to set the upcoming events as virtual races. We can create a Google doc where people can upload their results after they complete the course individually. I’ll try and get more details out in the next few days. Stay safe and stay fit!

Kevin Olney


From: main@SoundRowers.groups.io <main@SoundRowers.groups.io> on behalf of Hugh Owen <haowen52@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 6:45:22 PM
To: main@SoundRowers.groups.io <main@soundrowers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Races for 2020 currently suspended
 
Good decision...... as disappointing as it is. 

The Wenatchee Row and Paddle Club has been discussing whether Guano Rocks Race might be rescheduled for later in the year . But at this point it's just  wait and see how things develop. 

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:42 PM watersprite <watersprite@...> wrote:
Given the current health situation and need for social distancing, the Sound Rowers board has determined the race season for 2020 is currently suspended. You can visit the homepage of our website for more details:

http://www.soundrowers.org/


Re: Races for 2020 currently suspended

Todd Silver
 

I’ve paid a fee to Tacoma Metro Parks for the May 9th Commencement Race. Shall I ask for a refund or is there a chance we will still do it?
Thanks
Todd 

Sent from Todd’s iPhone

On Mar 22, 2020, at 3:42 PM, watersprite <watersprite@...> wrote:

Given the current health situation and need for social distancing, the Sound Rowers board has determined the race season for 2020 is currently suspended. You can visit the homepage of our website for more details:

http://www.soundrowers.org/


Re: Races for 2020 currently suspended

Hugh Owen
 

Good decision...... as disappointing as it is. 

The Wenatchee Row and Paddle Club has been discussing whether Guano Rocks Race might be rescheduled for later in the year . But at this point it's just  wait and see how things develop. 

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:42 PM watersprite <watersprite@...> wrote:
Given the current health situation and need for social distancing, the Sound Rowers board has determined the race season for 2020 is currently suspended. You can visit the homepage of our website for more details:

http://www.soundrowers.org/


Races for 2020 currently suspended

watersprite
 

Given the current health situation and need for social distancing, the Sound Rowers board has determined the race season for 2020 is currently suspended. You can visit the homepage of our website for more details:

http://www.soundrowers.org/


Re: Bellingham Bay Rough Water Race is CANCELED

Herbie Weisse
 

Smart move.  We’ll save you a slot in August for Shaw.


On Mar 13, 2020, at 2:23 PM, watersprite <watersprite@...> wrote:

From Peter:

NOPE.....Not happening....please spread the word without coughing!   Been frustrating with all the cancellations and government  encouraging self imposed healthy lifestyle restrictions, but if this thing decides to visit Whatcom County with more force then a breaking Post Point Wave, then as a pro golfer said on TV yesterday, its not that we want to OVER Anticipate this flu but what would happen if we had UNDER Anticpated it......so, that being said, wash your hands and hope see you all later this year sometime on Bham Bay!!    Cheers, Peter


Bellingham Bay Rough Water Race is CANCELED

watersprite
 

From Peter:

NOPE.....Not happening....please spread the word without coughing!   Been frustrating with all the cancellations and government  encouraging self imposed healthy lifestyle restrictions, but if this thing decides to visit Whatcom County with more force then a breaking Post Point Wave, then as a pro golfer said on TV yesterday, its not that we want to OVER Anticipate this flu but what would happen if we had UNDER Anticpated it......so, that being said, wash your hands and hope see you all later this year sometime on Bham Bay!!    Cheers, Peter


Re: Shaw Island is in danger of losing it's camping

Debbie Natelson
 

Yay Carrie, Yay Rick Hughs.  Thanks for the quick response Carrie.   I'll write as well soon
Debbie

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:22 PM carrie weisse via Groups.Io <weisse_hse=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I emailed the three people listed below to save Shaw camping.  I received a response from Rick Hughes.  See below.
Carrie Weisse

I support Shaw Park and will work to find funding to keep the park running as it has in the past.

Rick Hughes

Vice Chair

San Juan County Council 

District #2 Waldron/Orcas Island

360-298-5103

360-472-0253

 

On Monday, November 18, 2019, 6:09:22 PM PST, Sound Rowers <webmaster@...> wrote:


The San Juan County Parks Council is trying to help fix a budget shortfall by no longer allowing overnight camping on Shaw Island. If this happens, the park will be day-use only. Ferry services, the General Store, and overall landscape maintenance may be effected. 

The money saved would be a very small part of the budget shortfall. Let's ask them to charge higher use fees, rather than shutting down all camping. 

Please email your comments: 
Rick Hughes Rickh@...
Jamie Stephens - jamies@...
Bill Watson - billw@... 

Or show up in person at the hearing:
Council Chambers
Friday Harbor 
Nov. 25, 2019
9:00 a.m.

Thank you, neighbors! 


Re: Shaw Island is in danger of losing it's camping

carrie weisse
 

I emailed the three people listed below to save Shaw camping.  I received a response from Rick Hughes.  See below.
Carrie Weisse

I support Shaw Park and will work to find funding to keep the park running as it has in the past.

Rick Hughes

Vice Chair

San Juan County Council 

District #2 Waldron/Orcas Island

360-298-5103

360-472-0253

 

On Monday, November 18, 2019, 6:09:22 PM PST, Sound Rowers <webmaster@...> wrote:


The San Juan County Parks Council is trying to help fix a budget shortfall by no longer allowing overnight camping on Shaw Island. If this happens, the park will be day-use only. Ferry services, the General Store, and overall landscape maintenance may be effected. 

The money saved would be a very small part of the budget shortfall. Let's ask them to charge higher use fees, rather than shutting down all camping. 

Please email your comments: 
Rick Hughes Rickh@...
Jamie Stephens - jamies@...
Bill Watson - billw@... 

Or show up in person at the hearing:
Council Chambers
Friday Harbor 
Nov. 25, 2019
9:00 a.m.

Thank you, neighbors! 


Shaw Island is in danger of losing it's camping

Sound Rowers
 

The San Juan County Parks Council is trying to help fix a budget shortfall by no longer allowing overnight camping on Shaw Island. If this happens, the park will be day-use only. Ferry services, the General Store, and overall landscape maintenance may be effected. 

The money saved would be a very small part of the budget shortfall. Let's ask them to charge higher use fees, rather than shutting down all camping. 

Please email your comments: 
Rick Hughes Rickh@...
Jamie Stephens - jamies@...
Bill Watson - billw@... 

Or show up in person at the hearing:
Council Chambers
Friday Harbor 
Nov. 25, 2019
9:00 a.m.

Thank you, neighbors! 


Annual Meeting: November 9

watersprite
 

A reminder to all that the Sound Rowers annual meeting is on Saturday, November 9. Members are encouraged to attend, details on our website: http://www.soundrowers.org/race-schedule/annual-meeting/

Preliminary agenda: /SRagenda2019.docx

Minutes from 2018: /SRminutes2018.docx

Apologies for any multiple notices... the original posting was erroneously made to the old Yahoo groups which is defunct and defective. 

-Traci


New files uploaded to main@SoundRowers.groups.io

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Vote for Greg Barton

Jon Harwood
 


Re: boat classifications (was: Not that it really matters...)

Sound Rowers
 

Hi Larry, 

Let’s chat about easiest way for you to update. Can do a call or talk Wed night. 

Thanks for stepping up!

Amber 
206-329-0408 


On May 16, 2019, at 5:30 PM, watersprite <watersprite@...> wrote:

Larry (and Kevin), thanks for expressing interest in updating our aging kayak list. Tom Cartmill did a heroic job for years (and thereby created the international standard!), but we never did get anyone to step up to maintain the list. I added a few surfskis at random while I was webmaster, but as noted there are many more on the market.

I would suggest coordinating with Amber, our webmaster, as to the best way to help out. We can either add an editing account on our WordPress site and allow you to directly update the list, or download this list and re-import the updated list. I leave that to you folks to hash out, but I can help with either setting up the edit account or extracting the data if needed.

-Traci


boat classifications (was: Not that it really matters...)

watersprite
 

Larry (and Kevin), thanks for expressing interest in updating our aging kayak list. Tom Cartmill did a heroic job for years (and thereby created the international standard!), but we never did get anyone to step up to maintain the list. I added a few surfskis at random while I was webmaster, but as noted there are many more on the market.

I would suggest coordinating with Amber, our webmaster, as to the best way to help out. We can either add an editing account on our WordPress site and allow you to directly update the list, or download this list and re-import the updated list. I leave that to you folks to hash out, but I can help with either setting up the edit account or extracting the data if needed.

-Traci


Re: Not that it really matters...

Larry Bussinger
 

This sounds like something I could do.  Give me a few weeks and I’ll update it.  Anyway to get a digital file that I could modify?

Larry Bussinger

On May 13, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Kevin Olney <olneykc@...> wrote:

If anyone had the time and ambition it would be useful to update the SR kayak classification chart (http://www.soundrowers.org/boat-classes/determining-kayak-classifications/).

I would say 90% of kayaks participating in races these days are surfskis and almost all of those models have been produced since the last update in 2004. Like Steve said, most fall in the HPK category but there are quite a few in FSK and even a couple that qualify as SK (V-5 and V-6). It’s a small enough number that it should be fairly easy to identify just the boats that are borderline.

I wouldn’t mind working on it in the off season but my schedule is pretty full for the next few months.

Sorry to miss the race Saturday. Looks like there was terrific weather and a great turnout!

Kevin O



From: main@SoundRowers.groups.io <main@SoundRowers.groups.io> on behalf of Todd Silver <todd2212@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 8:53:49 PM
To: main@soundrowers.groups.io
Cc: jcharwood248@...; Todd Silver; Shane Baker
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Not that it really matters...
 
Jon,
Thanks for the nice note. I’m not sure I understand what should have happened. We really do want to get folks listed in the correct categories as it does matter. As a rower, I have to admit that I know little about the various forward facing craft so rely on folks to self-identify at registration. Sorry if that didn’t happen correctly. 
I’ve copied our Sound Rower  friend and expert on kayaks and surf skis, Shane Baker, as he might be able to answer any questions or clarify. If I need to mail correct ribbons to you or anyone else I’d be happy to do so. 
I was glad the weather cooperated for the race. Thanks for joining us. 
Regards,
Todd 

Sent from Todd’s iPhone

On May 12, 2019, at 7:05 PM, Jon Harwood <jcharwood248@...> wrote:

I chose to haul the jumbo Pygmy sea kayak around the buoys at Commencement Bay, leaving the carbon OC1 in the parking lot, because I came for the Blue Ribbon. I wielded a wooden Greenland paddle to match the wooden boat, just to make my martyrdom complete -- and maximize my time on the picturesque Tacoma waters. What happens? Another sea kayak appears! But no! The 14-year old registered it as a "surfski" sea kayak -- unaware that makes it a different class of boat. Pics don't lie! Peyton finished less than a minute ahead, and then didn't appear to collect the covetted Blue Ribbon. I got red.
Does anyone still call it a high performance kayak? Should surfski be on the boat classes instead?
Not that it matters... It's all for fun, and fun for all!


Re: Not that it really matters...

Peter & Vanessa
 

My understanding is that Tom Cartmill, who did the great work putting this together, retired from the job of maintaining it a few years ago. I cannot remember if someone offered to take up the reigns or not. 


I can see in the list Epic and Think surf skis, including V14 etc. that have come out much later that 2004, so I assume some updating has been going on. No mention of Fenn's though, or Allwave, or others.


The list is getting too long anyway, and should probably be split into two: Surf Skis and Sea Kayaks, and then classified as SK, FSK, HPK. And/or get fancy and have Alphabetic links to the start of each letter.


I guess the question is did someone pick this role up - and if not Kevin do you want to give it a go? Perhaps bring it up to date by the end of 2019?




On May 13, 2019 at 12:29 PM Todd Silver <todd2212@...> wrote:

Kevin,

Yes, it was a fun Commencement Bay race with great conditions and a good turnout.

I’ll leave this classification question up to all of you who face forwards. I’ve added Peter Turcan to the email string.

Onward Facing Backwards,

Todd

 

 

Todd Silver

McCarver Square #201

2115 North 30th Street

Tacoma, WA 98403

Cell 253-370-4931

todd2212@...

 

From: main@SoundRowers.groups.io <main@SoundRowers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Olney
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@SoundRowers.groups.io
Cc: jcharwood248@...; Todd Silver <todd2212@...>; Shane Baker <Kiwibaker@...>
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Not that it really matters...

 

If anyone had the time and ambition it would be useful to update the SR kayak classification chart (http://www.soundrowers.org/boat-classes/determining-kayak-classifications/).

 

I would say 90% of kayaks participating in races these days are surfskis and almost all of those models have been produced since the last update in 2004. Like Steve said, most fall in the HPK category but there are quite a few in FSK and even a couple that qualify as SK (V-5 and V-6). It’s a small enough number that it should be fairly easy to identify just the boats that are borderline.

 

I wouldn’t mind working on it in the off season but my schedule is pretty full for the next few months.

 

Sorry to miss the race Saturday. Looks like there was terrific weather and a great turnout!

 

Kevin O

 

 


From: main@SoundRowers.groups.io <main@SoundRowers.groups.io> on behalf of Todd Silver <todd2212@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 8:53:49 PM
To: main@soundrowers.groups.io
Cc: jcharwood248@...; Todd Silver; Shane Baker
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Not that it really matters...

 

Jon,

Thanks for the nice note. I’m not sure I understand what should have happened. We really do want to get folks listed in the correct categories as it does matter. As a rower, I have to admit that I know little about the various forward facing craft so rely on folks to self-identify at registration. Sorry if that didn’t happen correctly. 

I’ve copied our Sound Rower  friend and expert on kayaks and surf skis, Shane Baker, as he might be able to answer any questions or clarify. If I need to mail correct ribbons to you or anyone else I’d be happy to do so. 

I was glad the weather cooperated for the race. Thanks for joining us. 

Regards,

Todd 

Sent from Todd’s iPhone


On May 12, 2019, at 7:05 PM, Jon Harwood <jcharwood248@...> wrote:

I chose to haul the jumbo Pygmy sea kayak around the buoys at Commencement Bay, leaving the carbon OC1 in the parking lot, because I came for the Blue Ribbon. I wielded a wooden Greenland paddle to match the wooden boat, just to make my martyrdom complete -- and maximize my time on the picturesque Tacoma waters. What happens? Another sea kayak appears! But no! The 14-year old registered it as a "surfski" sea kayak -- unaware that makes it a different class of boat. Pics don't lie! Peyton finished less than a minute ahead, and then didn't appear to collect the covetted Blue Ribbon. I got red.
Does anyone still call it a high performance kayak? Should surfski be on the boat classes instead?
Not that it matters... It's all for fun, and fun for all!

 



 


 


Re: Not that it really matters...

Todd Silver
 

Kevin,

Yes, it was a fun Commencement Bay race with great conditions and a good turnout.

I’ll leave this classification question up to all of you who face forwards. I’ve added Peter Turcan to the email string.

Onward Facing Backwards,

Todd

 

 

Todd Silver

McCarver Square #201

2115 North 30th Street

Tacoma, WA 98403

Cell 253-370-4931

todd2212@...

 

From: main@SoundRowers.groups.io <main@SoundRowers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Olney
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@SoundRowers.groups.io
Cc: jcharwood248@...; Todd Silver <todd2212@...>; Shane Baker <Kiwibaker@...>
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Not that it really matters...

 

If anyone had the time and ambition it would be useful to update the SR kayak classification chart (http://www.soundrowers.org/boat-classes/determining-kayak-classifications/).

 

I would say 90% of kayaks participating in races these days are surfskis and almost all of those models have been produced since the last update in 2004. Like Steve said, most fall in the HPK category but there are quite a few in FSK and even a couple that qualify as SK (V-5 and V-6). It’s a small enough number that it should be fairly easy to identify just the boats that are borderline.

 

I wouldn’t mind working on it in the off season but my schedule is pretty full for the next few months.

 

Sorry to miss the race Saturday. Looks like there was terrific weather and a great turnout!

 

Kevin O

 

 


From: main@SoundRowers.groups.io <main@SoundRowers.groups.io> on behalf of Todd Silver <todd2212@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 8:53:49 PM
To: main@soundrowers.groups.io
Cc: jcharwood248@...; Todd Silver; Shane Baker
Subject: Re: [SoundRowers] Not that it really matters...

 

Jon,

Thanks for the nice note. I’m not sure I understand what should have happened. We really do want to get folks listed in the correct categories as it does matter. As a rower, I have to admit that I know little about the various forward facing craft so rely on folks to self-identify at registration. Sorry if that didn’t happen correctly. 

I’ve copied our Sound Rower  friend and expert on kayaks and surf skis, Shane Baker, as he might be able to answer any questions or clarify. If I need to mail correct ribbons to you or anyone else I’d be happy to do so. 

I was glad the weather cooperated for the race. Thanks for joining us. 

Regards,

Todd 

Sent from Todd’s iPhone


On May 12, 2019, at 7:05 PM, Jon Harwood <jcharwood248@...> wrote:

I chose to haul the jumbo Pygmy sea kayak around the buoys at Commencement Bay, leaving the carbon OC1 in the parking lot, because I came for the Blue Ribbon. I wielded a wooden Greenland paddle to match the wooden boat, just to make my martyrdom complete -- and maximize my time on the picturesque Tacoma waters. What happens? Another sea kayak appears! But no! The 14-year old registered it as a "surfski" sea kayak -- unaware that makes it a different class of boat. Pics don't lie! Peyton finished less than a minute ahead, and then didn't appear to collect the covetted Blue Ribbon. I got red.
Does anyone still call it a high performance kayak? Should surfski be on the boat classes instead?
Not that it matters... It's all for fun, and fun for all!